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	<title>Comments on: DAMON AND HUNTER: The Film the Australian Government Doesn&#8217;t Want You to See</title>
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		<title>By: ell</title>
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		<dc:creator>ell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 09:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We might be forward thinking Anastasia but we don't speak out enough. Everytime the OFLC reviews policy and guidelines they call for public submissions - the only ones who appear to make comment are the conservative groups who want tighter restrictions not less. I also believe that not that many Australians actually understand how classification and censorship work in this country - there's plenty of mystery around the facts -- it is legal to own and view X rated material but it can't be legally sold in all the states, in the NT and the ACT it is legal. 

Any film with depiction of actual sex will be classified X which restricts sale and screening. Film festivals can apply for exemptions, that allows for films that have yet to be classified in Australia, but they won't grant an expemption to a film already (rightly or wrongly) classified X, nor will they grant an exemption if the Director of the OFLC believes the film would have been given an X rating if the film was to be classified. Sex is out, which is even more vexing when you consider that a film festival can age restrict - so patrons watching Damon and Hunter would already have been classified as adults - 18 or over.

Complaining in writing to Des Clark, the Director of OFLC about situations like the one confronting Damon and Hunter is always a good idea, they are compelled to list complaints in their annual report. I'd like them to know that not everyone believes we need to be protected from depictions of sex.

Helen Vnuk's article in the SMH from 2003 makes good reading - her book Snatched -Sex and Censorship in Australia makes compelling reading too.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/06/1057430073678.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We might be forward thinking Anastasia but we don&#8217;t speak out enough. Everytime the OFLC reviews policy and guidelines they call for public submissions - the only ones who appear to make comment are the conservative groups who want tighter restrictions not less. I also believe that not that many Australians actually understand how classification and censorship work in this country - there&#8217;s plenty of mystery around the facts &#8212; it is legal to own and view X rated material but it can&#8217;t be legally sold in all the states, in the NT and the ACT it is legal. </p>
<p>Any film with depiction of actual sex will be classified X which restricts sale and screening. Film festivals can apply for exemptions, that allows for films that have yet to be classified in Australia, but they won&#8217;t grant an expemption to a film already (rightly or wrongly) classified X, nor will they grant an exemption if the Director of the OFLC believes the film would have been given an X rating if the film was to be classified. Sex is out, which is even more vexing when you consider that a film festival can age restrict - so patrons watching Damon and Hunter would already have been classified as adults - 18 or over.</p>
<p>Complaining in writing to Des Clark, the Director of OFLC about situations like the one confronting Damon and Hunter is always a good idea, they are compelled to list complaints in their annual report. I&#8217;d like them to know that not everyone believes we need to be protected from depictions of sex.</p>
<p>Helen Vnuk&#8217;s article in the SMH from 2003 makes good reading - her book Snatched -Sex and Censorship in Australia makes compelling reading too.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/06/1057430073678.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/06/1057430073678.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anastasia</title>
		<link>http://www.comstockfilms.com/blog/tony/2006/08/20/damon-and-hunter-the-film-the-australian-government-doesnt-want-you-to-see/#comment-8012</link>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are pretty forward thinking here in Australia, but it's a bit over the top to say that we're not based on the Film and Literature Office. Comparing Brokeback Mountain (which is hardly sexually groundbreaking with its 'sprinkle' of sexual content) to a film that features graphic sex between two males, isn't a comparison. 

If a graphic homosexual film was pushed for released in the United States, you'd have an entire stampede of religious fanatics, and a Senate enquiry compared to what you'd have here. I don't want to be blunt, but the reality is that Janet Jackson's nipple caused a furor, whereas here something like that wouldn't offend anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are pretty forward thinking here in Australia, but it&#8217;s a bit over the top to say that we&#8217;re not based on the Film and Literature Office. Comparing Brokeback Mountain (which is hardly sexually groundbreaking with its &#8217;sprinkle&#8217; of sexual content) to a film that features graphic sex between two males, isn&#8217;t a comparison. </p>
<p>If a graphic homosexual film was pushed for released in the United States, you&#8217;d have an entire stampede of religious fanatics, and a Senate enquiry compared to what you&#8217;d have here. I don&#8217;t want to be blunt, but the reality is that Janet Jackson&#8217;s nipple caused a furor, whereas here something like that wouldn&#8217;t offend anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So sorry to hear about these roadblocks.  Here I was  thinking Australia must be a very forward thinking country to be accepting your beautiful film.  The re-edit is so sad.  Maybe it needs subtitles.  Let people know what the beautiful, passionate, erotic, and loving banned moments were about.

I agree with alwaysrousedgirl - I hope everyone comes to the site to buy it.  

Hoping it gets shown,
Linda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So sorry to hear about these roadblocks.  Here I was  thinking Australia must be a very forward thinking country to be accepting your beautiful film.  The re-edit is so sad.  Maybe it needs subtitles.  Let people know what the beautiful, passionate, erotic, and loving banned moments were about.</p>
<p>I agree with alwaysrousedgirl - I hope everyone comes to the site to buy it.  </p>
<p>Hoping it gets shown,<br />
Linda</p>
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		<title>By: ell</title>
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		<dc:creator>ell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh and double ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh and double ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: alwaysarousedgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>alwaysarousedgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was also wondering where you were.  

Glad you are having some fun in the water.  Australia sounds stressful.  

But as a worst case scenario, think of this...all those people DON'T get to see the film, but they are DYING to know what all the controversy is about...so they come to your site and they BUY it.

I hope it gets shown, but if not...

:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was also wondering where you were.  </p>
<p>Glad you are having some fun in the water.  Australia sounds stressful.  </p>
<p>But as a worst case scenario, think of this&#8230;all those people DON&#8217;T get to see the film, but they are DYING to know what all the controversy is about&#8230;so they come to your site and they BUY it.</p>
<p>I hope it gets shown, but if not&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.comstockfilms.com/blog/tony/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Anastasia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's always a controversy over an erect penis in our media, particularly when it concerns explicit sex in film. Perhaps the film will be permitted to be purchased in the ACT and NT (where XXX rated films are sold, which is ironic really because the ACT is where our federal government is situated and yet this territory also has permission to sell XXX rated film).

It's some consolation that they're willing to accept an edited version. The last film that was banned here in Australia was French film Baise Moi.

There's still a high level of homophobia within government, in Australia. They still have ways to go in terms of legalising same sex relationships in the way England have done, or better yet, legalising same sex marriage like other countries have done. Where it concerns homosexual relationships, we're in the same boat that America is in, and lately the Australian federal government has been jumping through hoops that the Bush Administration holds up, and this can apply to our government deeming it unnacceptable to accept (legally, in matters of probate, and life insurance) or make homosexual relationships official (in any way or form).

I find it really odd, considering 9 Songs did feature an erect penis numerous times, including a fellatio scene that culminated in the male character's ejaculation on film. This wasn't deemed controversial by the OFLC, so I don't see how a film depicting two males sexually engaging, being any different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s always a controversy over an erect penis in our media, particularly when it concerns explicit sex in film. Perhaps the film will be permitted to be purchased in the ACT and NT (where XXX rated films are sold, which is ironic really because the ACT is where our federal government is situated and yet this territory also has permission to sell XXX rated film).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s some consolation that they&#8217;re willing to accept an edited version. The last film that was banned here in Australia was French film Baise Moi.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s still a high level of homophobia within government, in Australia. They still have ways to go in terms of legalising same sex relationships in the way England have done, or better yet, legalising same sex marriage like other countries have done. Where it concerns homosexual relationships, we&#8217;re in the same boat that America is in, and lately the Australian federal government has been jumping through hoops that the Bush Administration holds up, and this can apply to our government deeming it unnacceptable to accept (legally, in matters of probate, and life insurance) or make homosexual relationships official (in any way or form).</p>
<p>I find it really odd, considering 9 Songs did feature an erect penis numerous times, including a fellatio scene that culminated in the male character&#8217;s ejaculation on film. This wasn&#8217;t deemed controversial by the OFLC, so I don&#8217;t see how a film depicting two males sexually engaging, being any different.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Naughty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms Naughty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been wondering where you'd got to.

Sorry to hear the OFLC got hold of Damon and Hunter. These are the same people who censored an article on genital surgery in Australian Women's Forum because the pictures contained "genital detail".

Australia has no bill of rights which means we have no written document that guarantees our right to free speech. This is why the government banned adult sites from being hosted on Australian servers, it's why it's illegal to sell hardcore sex DVDs in most states and it's why they've put the kybosh and D&#38;H.

The stupid thing is that Aussies are very laid back when it comes to sex and porn, more so than Americans, I think. Most people here are OK with the idea that adults should have the right to watch anything they want to watch. There's a stupid disparity between what people do and what the politicians enforce, but everyone is too lazy or frightened to stand up and make it a political issue. The loud zealots get their way. Unfortunately apathy is what drives censorship in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been wondering where you&#8217;d got to.</p>
<p>Sorry to hear the OFLC got hold of Damon and Hunter. These are the same people who censored an article on genital surgery in Australian Women&#8217;s Forum because the pictures contained &#8220;genital detail&#8221;.</p>
<p>Australia has no bill of rights which means we have no written document that guarantees our right to free speech. This is why the government banned adult sites from being hosted on Australian servers, it&#8217;s why it&#8217;s illegal to sell hardcore sex DVDs in most states and it&#8217;s why they&#8217;ve put the kybosh and D&amp;H.</p>
<p>The stupid thing is that Aussies are very laid back when it comes to sex and porn, more so than Americans, I think. Most people here are OK with the idea that adults should have the right to watch anything they want to watch. There&#8217;s a stupid disparity between what people do and what the politicians enforce, but everyone is too lazy or frightened to stand up and make it a political issue. The loud zealots get their way. Unfortunately apathy is what drives censorship in this country.</p>
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