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		<title>By: Clarisse Thorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarisse Thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm coming to this late, but wanted to comment!

You know I love your work, Tony, and I love your take-no-prisoners attitude to this subject.  I think that's important, and I am really proud that my baby Sex+++ was able to screen one of your films (even if I myself missed the screening, being over here in Africa and all).

I do feel like you're being unfairly dismissive of my concerns, though.  Maybe I was over-anxious, maybe I was oversensitive ... but look at it from my perspective.  I'm 25 now, but I was 24 then, so: I was a 24-year-old novice programmer and activist who only &lt;a href="http://clarissethorn.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/so-yeah-im-going-to-africa-for-years-starting-next-week/" rel="nofollow"&gt;managed to start this program&lt;/a&gt; by the skin of my teeth.  I was not an official employee of Hull-House Museum, I wasn't being paid for my curatorial work, and I was already nervous about just how much Sex+++ pushed the envelope.  A lot of the apparent legitimacy of Sex+++ depended on how well I could make it &lt;i&gt;look&lt;/i&gt; like a "serious", academic project ... and, at least at the beginning, part of that effort meant screening films that were (as much as possible) beyond reproach.  Which, unfortunately -- in a country where filmed sexual content is considered more obscene than filmed torture and murder -- meant that I had to be very careful about the actual sexual content of my films ... sex-positive film series or no.

I wasn't trying to dismiss or marginalize your films.  I &lt;i&gt;certainly&lt;/i&gt; take your films seriously -- whether one calls them pornography or documentaries, I take them very seriously and I talk about them all the time!  I was just trying to be sensitive to the climate I find myself in.  Maybe I was oversensitive; as it happens, I was obviously able to add your film to the list, so it's entirely possible that I was oversensitive!  But it's not like my fear arose from conservatism, or failure to appreciate your work -- I was simply afraid that one misstep could bring the whole beautiful Sex+++ edifice crashing down.

So, given all that, I feel a little hurt by the tone of your post.  Just as you've taken risks, Sex+++ was a big risk for me; including "Bill &amp; Desiree" felt like an added risk.  I think it's a bit much to lump me in with CNN and PBS when my concerns were about effectiveness rather than, say, "decency" or "acceptability".

Anyway ... I'm glad it went well, I'm sad that I missed it, and I'm so honored to have had the chance to work with you personally.  I am proud to be your ally in this movement and I truly hope "Bill &amp; Desiree" picks up some great sales!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m coming to this late, but wanted to comment!</p>
<p>You know I love your work, Tony, and I love your take-no-prisoners attitude to this subject.  I think that&#8217;s important, and I am really proud that my baby Sex+++ was able to screen one of your films (even if I myself missed the screening, being over here in Africa and all).</p>
<p>I do feel like you&#8217;re being unfairly dismissive of my concerns, though.  Maybe I was over-anxious, maybe I was oversensitive &#8230; but look at it from my perspective.  I&#8217;m 25 now, but I was 24 then, so: I was a 24-year-old novice programmer and activist who only <a href="http://clarissethorn.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/so-yeah-im-going-to-africa-for-years-starting-next-week/" rel="nofollow">managed to start this program</a> by the skin of my teeth.  I was not an official employee of Hull-House Museum, I wasn&#8217;t being paid for my curatorial work, and I was already nervous about just how much Sex+++ pushed the envelope.  A lot of the apparent legitimacy of Sex+++ depended on how well I could make it <i>look</i> like a &#8220;serious&#8221;, academic project &#8230; and, at least at the beginning, part of that effort meant screening films that were (as much as possible) beyond reproach.  Which, unfortunately &#8212; in a country where filmed sexual content is considered more obscene than filmed torture and murder &#8212; meant that I had to be very careful about the actual sexual content of my films &#8230; sex-positive film series or no.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t trying to dismiss or marginalize your films.  I <i>certainly</i> take your films seriously &#8212; whether one calls them pornography or documentaries, I take them very seriously and I talk about them all the time!  I was just trying to be sensitive to the climate I find myself in.  Maybe I was oversensitive; as it happens, I was obviously able to add your film to the list, so it&#8217;s entirely possible that I was oversensitive!  But it&#8217;s not like my fear arose from conservatism, or failure to appreciate your work &#8212; I was simply afraid that one misstep could bring the whole beautiful Sex+++ edifice crashing down.</p>
<p>So, given all that, I feel a little hurt by the tone of your post.  Just as you&#8217;ve taken risks, Sex+++ was a big risk for me; including &#8220;Bill &amp; Desiree&#8221; felt like an added risk.  I think it&#8217;s a bit much to lump me in with CNN and PBS when my concerns were about effectiveness rather than, say, &#8220;decency&#8221; or &#8220;acceptability&#8221;.</p>
<p>Anyway &#8230; I&#8217;m glad it went well, I&#8217;m sad that I missed it, and I&#8217;m so honored to have had the chance to work with you personally.  I am proud to be your ally in this movement and I truly hope &#8220;Bill &amp; Desiree&#8221; picks up some great sales!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A review of this event is at: http://sexgenderbody.com/content/film-review-hot-and-bothered-feminist-pornography-2003-bill-and-desiree-love-timeless-2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A review of this event is at: <a href="http://sexgenderbody.com/content/film-review-hot-and-bothered-feminist-pornography-2003-bill-and-desiree-love-timeless-2008" rel="nofollow">http://sexgenderbody.com/content/film-review-hot-and-bothered-feminist-pornography-2003-bill-and-desiree-love-timeless-2008</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lisa J</title>
		<link>http://www.comstockfilms.com/blog/tony/2009/07/25/sex-positive-porn-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-111097</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony, thanks once again for the opportunity to screen Bill and Desiree at the Jane Addams Hull-House Museum last week!!  As I told you on the phone, we had a great turn out of about 75 sex positive people, and the discussion afterward was fascinating.  I really appreciate your work and generosity.  It was a pleasure to speak with you as well.

very best
lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony, thanks once again for the opportunity to screen Bill and Desiree at the Jane Addams Hull-House Museum last week!!  As I told you on the phone, we had a great turn out of about 75 sex positive people, and the discussion afterward was fascinating.  I really appreciate your work and generosity.  It was a pleasure to speak with you as well.</p>
<p>very best<br />
lisa</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Porn movie, documentary film, what does the label matter?  How about just plain sex-positive human interaction?

cheers,
Matt and Khym</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Porn movie, documentary film, what does the label matter?  How about just plain sex-positive human interaction?</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
Matt and Khym</p>
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